to win. but i think the polling is misleading to show that it is obama right now than it is. it depends on who shows up, what is the weather like. a whole bunch of factors play in this what does the storm do. >> gavin: here's what people are thinking as that meet something occurring. >> yes, and we're going to know--we're still going to be in the field on monday, and the election is on tuesday. >> gavin: interesting. >> there is not going to be whole lot of value being in the field on monday because it will be too late for them to publish the results. then we'll be able to say who did you vote for in realtime in an exit poll on a whole other level. >> we're not saying that we're better but we feel just as good as phone polling and it doesn't actually cost us anything. phone polling is really expensive. >> gavin: i've spent plenty of money in polling. let me put it in perspective. when i was running for mayor, i would do a comprehensive poll. it would cost about $30,000 to 35 they had to a simple baseline poll. this is in the city. if you want to go statewide and get a broader swath you'